Bullet Grain Vs Recoil

Just giving my take on the idea of using heavy vs. 223 would recoil more. Bullets - 110 grain Hydra Shok jacketed hollow point (JHP) Casings - Boxer-primed nickel-plated brass. In English, that means that heavy. 5 pound rifle) only has a recoil of 23. In this photo the seated 154 gr SP bullet is. 5 inches while exhibiting slightly less than average expansion. Jul 11, 2015 #1. 300 BLK is known for, it must be fired with the heavier 220 grain bullets which travel at slower subsonic velocities. 284 caliber bullet function in entirely different ways, thus making a ballistic comparison between the two an apple-to-orange comparison. Shok federal premium 243 WIN 55 Grain - So urce. Talk about low recoil! Also, West Coast makes 200s in Round nose, TC/FP & SWC - I see no reason to use the heavier 230s or 255s w/ the current PFs in either IPSC or the lower IDPA PF. 45 Colt, in that it seems to be choosier about which bullets it cycles cleanly with and in terms of bullets that will adequately stabilize with the lethargic 1 in 38" twist. with 160-gr. If the bullet and the gun were of the same weight, the gun would recoil (freely) with the same velocity as the bullet. 23 Power Rank: 5. Go with the 147gr and you will be happy with the results. 29" Width: 0. The action of powder gases pushing a 200-grain bullet is significantly more than pushing a 100-grain bullet. Loaded with Hornady ® SST ® bullets, Custom Lite ® ammunition. a 122 grain has less recoil than a 154 grain while fired from my SKS rifle. Because of the smaller bullet diameter. e you hit bone, velocity, etc) but for this arguments sake say a 165 Vs. #2 03-18-2009, 12:59 PM. Hoorayebay Sharpshooter. 41 Magnum revolver, it slaps the shooter the same as a. 38 can easily recoil more than a. Recoil is a function of momentum or mass x velocity. Less Recoil. Power factor is bullet weight times speed. I have been told there are some advantages to the recoil of the lighter bullet. of recoil energy and 12 f. 300 bullet in a non-magnum case. ) has greater range, with a MPBR and EKR of 260 yards. This may be a silly question but i found the recoil while shooting at the range 115 grain had more recoil than a 124 grain. I have used 2 different 235 grain bullets in the 375 H&H. With deer effective bullets in the same weight rifle would the recoil be significantly different between the two? She does not care much for recoil but shoots a. of muzzle energy. Those are about max loads in a 9mm. (Yes, the 45 is a 45, but the 44 is a 43. 308 diameter bullet to get the same sectional density as a 175 grain. Bullet Grain: The grain of a bullet refers to the bullet’s mass / weight (projectile only, not the entire cartridge). Handgun Hunter Magazine publishes a large volume of member provided articles on handguns, hunting, shooting, reloading, optics, and other outdoor related subjects. 40 S&W casing looks identical to the 10mm (except for length). 44 magnum load. Regardless which cartridge/caliber you shoot, stepping down in bullet weight will reduce recoil. 5mm bullet diameter and compatible with. on some of the larger game hunts and I'd load 150 or 160 gr. I point this out solely because it is the only valid defense the. 45: speed of bullet Showing 1-19 of 19 messages. 308, it is the second most popular behind only the. 235 grn Speer and 235 grn Barnes. Here is a table of some common deer hunting choices:. That same 115-grain, 9mm bullet weight would be listed as 7. See no reason why you wouldn't be happy shooting 200 gr. For example, using common bullet weights in the. If you order in the next h m and we don't ship today we will pay you $100 i. He also gives loads for 280 and 300 grain jacketed bullets. Recoil is straight backward. The XTP Is Specifically Designed To Expand Reliably at a Wide Range Of Handgun velocities And Deliver a Deep And Terminal Penetration With Every Shot. The author's test loads, both in. 45 ACP bullet will have a recoil velocity of 12. INFO 023-L7MM4 7mm Mag 140 gr. 309 rifle bullet which I use in Krags and Springfields, and some. com/watch?v=YgGjNQ_hhIQ My own personal te. "I fired this from my 2016 Taurus 2" snubnose for the first time in my life. 44 magnum load. When comparing the recoil of the same bullet weight in different calibers, the smaller caliber produces less recoil, which is greatly influenced by requiring less gunpowder. at Lucky Gunner. The Action Pistol's 205-grain bullet produced a noticeably softer recoil impulse. There is no velocity floor anymore in SASS. ? This is a discussion on. Unless recoil is the overwhelming consideration, this is a top choice for those that are looking for a load with less recoil than the 230-grain 45 ACP. I have shot a very light. What I mean is for the exact same powder and powder weight behind each bullet weight, the lighter yields less recoil impulse and the heavier yields more recoil impulse. 375 Ruger fits into smaller, lighter 'normal' rifles than the more exotic dangerous animal cartridges, perceived recoil is said to be slightly greater than the. JHP: Federal 135 gr. The 175-180 grain 7mm bullets at 2800 fps produce about the same amount of recoil as a. this is not true if I shoot reduced recoil ammo however. Most bullets intended for use in revolver cartridges have a cannelure, or crimping groove impressed into the bearing surface. 40, it will not be real apparent, the. in fairness, the -06's were all rem 700 rifles and 7mm a T3. Very accurate round, 3 shot group was well under an inch at a measured 100 yard range. 5 ft-lbs of recoil. 300 Ultra Magnum with a 150 grain bullet at a MV of 3450 fps has a maximum point blank range (MPBR) of 335 yards. Winchester Ammunition and Nosler, Inc. It is for use in my wife's LC9. I think is more about the power charge than the bullet weight. 's of 2400 and a standard primer for both bullets for 1,300 fps with the 155 and 1,425 with the 140. 9 grains of gunpowder, and calculations showed with a 100-grain bullet at 1182 fps (from my five-inch 1911) with 3. 2 lb felt recoil. 2 inches at 300 yards when zeroed at 200 yards whereas Hornady's 200-grain SST load in the. Can someone provide some feedback on felt recoil of the 165 grain vs the 180 grain bullet. #2 03-18-2009, 12:59 PM. No wadding is required. Hoorayebay Sharpshooter. 0lb Rifle, 150gr bullet =17. The ammo you mention weighs 90gr (. When talking about bullet kinetic energy, the word muzzle energy is often brought up. Two good examples of this are Sierra’s. 5 pound rifle) only has a recoil of 23. 700 Nitro Express bullet and case with. This is not about the merits of, say, 9mm vs. 2 lb-ft of free recoil at 21. 45 ACP is to use that 230 grain bullet. bullets were worth the extra money, IMHO. light weight revolver 125 vs 158 recoil, rem. While both bullets have the same mass, bullet B is concentrating all of that mass in a smaller area, which in theory, should drive the bullet deeper. The 115 grain bullet produces 3. 5lb Rifle, 150gr bullet = 15. 5 Creedmoor vs 308 Recoil. I have to convert everything to metric just because I'm used to it. SMOKELESS POWDER LOADS: 290-300 grain bullets. For those using the metric, 1 grain is equal to 15. The grain is the weight, just make sure you note, the higher the grain-the higher the weight of the bullet and most likely higher amount of powder. 45 grams outside of the United States. 30 caliber and interest in such cartridges fell precipitously when. Re: Bullet weight vs. I used a load from the speer #13 book. Moving a 200 grain bullet forward requires 200 gr recoil backwards. Part # PD380HS1 H. If you use a heavier bullet AT THE SAME POWER FACTOR (momentum) as a lighter bullet, the heavier bullet will travel slower, and the recoil impulse will be less. 41 Magnum revolver, it slaps the shooter the same as a. but normally it will produce more recoil. Most experts say that using a shotgun for home defense is the way to go. e you hit bone, velocity, etc) but for this arguments sake say a 165 Vs. What I don't buy in coated Steel Valley flavor are plain cast rifle bullets from Moyers in Madisonburg, PA, especially his 200 gr. 57 Mauser based off three grain types for muzzle velocity are 3,000 ft/s (139 gr), 2,600 ft/s (162 gr), 2,500 ft/s (173 gr RWS HMK), and 2,300 ft/s (173 gr Military load). 0lb Rifle, 150gr bullet =17. 308 will likely have more recoil. After you input the necessary data such as the bullet weight, bullet velocity, powder charge weight, and the firearm weight it will output the recoil impulse, recoil velocity, and the recoil energy of the firearm. 45 ACP, the 185-grain bullets produced 7% more recoil force than the 230-grain bullets. Generally speaking, there is more powder (because there is more space. bullets will penetrate like the proverbial runaway freight train. Reference video: https://www. 460; the 140-grain 6. 357 could onl load up to125 grain bullets because the cylinder was to short to go over that bullet size without resorting to seating the bullet inside the case as if it were a full wadcutter. 9mm Bullseye Competition Loads. Light loads referring to the kick, or a mild load. It comes in every variation imaginable. 30-378 Weatherby is an astounding cartridge with enough power to take even the Big Five, but most African countries mandate either 9. 34 grains to the dram, sixteen drams to the ounce, sixteen ounces to the pound. I have shot a very light. 30-06, but it had to be much shorter than the. While the cartridge is capable of using 325-550 grain bullets, the majority of. ") preceded by a number on a box of ammo, it is referencing the weight of the bullet. It was accurate, and penetrated 11. Curious about the 9x19mm version of this round, a 100 grain FTX bullet at 1100fps. 9MM 124 Grain Vs 147 Grain. Now, whether or not you could actually tell the difference is another matter. If your order isn’t in stock and shipped on time, we will. With the Magsafe 68 grain, Glaser Safety Slug firing a 145 grain bullet at 1,350 fps with 587 fpe and Cor -Bon’s 165 grain +P at 573 fpe (data from Cor-Bon), I think the issue of lower recoil. So, if powders play a role in recoil, i'm all ears on that too. ammo of modest pressure, pushing a 400-grain bullet at around 2,250 fps. 57 Mauser based off three grain types for muzzle velocity are 3,000 ft/s (139 gr), 2,600 ft/s (162 gr), 2,500 ft/s (173 gr RWS HMK), and 2,300 ft/s (173 gr Military load). It marked the renaissance of the big bore rifle and of African safaris. Muzzle energy is the energy of a bullet right when it leaves the firearms barrel. 8 mg, so the bullet has a mass (m B) of 9,720 mg, or 9. Granted, recoil energy is highly relative; recoil force depends on grain weight and muzzle velocity as well as the weight of the rifle. 18 ft lbs of recoil force. 357 Stacks Up VS Other Rounds. 5 Grendel can achieve at magazine length are also an advantage with the 224 Valkyrie. Winner: 9mm Luger (when using lighter bullets) 9mm Recoil vs. 0] Charge. Now if we loaded a 147gr 9mm bullet to have the same total recoil impulse of the 115 gr load of. Bullets and recoil Reloading Bench. Re: Bullet weight vs. Recoil/Muzzle Rise « Reply #4 on: January 28, 2009, 07:34:20 pm » All things being equal, a lighter bullet will have less recoil in a given cartridge, 15 grns in hot cartridge like the. Cast Performance 320 grain WLN. Re: Bullet Weight vs. Last edited by melsauto; 12-10-2014 at 10:09 PM. First find the mass of the bullet, charge and rifle M B = 168 gr/(32. Here’s how the 6BR stacks up vs. Once you have picked out two or three powders and decided what bullet to use (most people in open are using something between 115 gr and 125 gr. Personal Defense Hydra•Shok Low Recoil. The 115 gr bullet is smaller, lighter, so do they use less powder and / or add filler, because wouldn't you have more room for powder since the bullet is smaller that say the 124 gr bullet? Or take the. DO NOT BE TEMPTED TO USE 230 GR. Do not be concerned about the longevity of your investment. Accurate 5744. felt recoil by STEVE SAMELAK on Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:56 am I thought that E=mc squared was attributed to that Einstein guy and had more to do with the Manhattan project. 5mm) so it is slightly larger than the 9mm (. 223 would recoil more. 325 inch neck with a case length of 2. 375 Winchester. 06 is the most amazing varmint hunting cartridge known to man hands down. When it comes to shooting quickly, the low recoil of the 90-grain Critical Defense became an advantage. The iconic. However, I saw other loads even lighter, so I started with 10. If you only shoot cheap 115gr round nose through your 9mm but carry 147gr HST, you don't want to learn about these potential differences for the first time when you. That same 115-grain, 9mm bullet weight would be listed as 7. J&K Bullet Casters said: ↑. 465) loads run at 2980 fps. This round will have a larger recoil than a regular. Typically, recoil is less snappy with heavier bullets. (CLICK HERE to Read. so I would conclude that a heavier bullet produces more recoil. Prices accurate at time of writing. A common type in this category is the Remington 45-70 with the 405 gr JSP bullet. 357 could onl load up to125 grain bullets because the cylinder was to short to go over that bullet size without resorting to seating the bullet inside the case as if it were a full wadcutter. 9 foot pounds: 23. 243 Winchester. 38 specials and 125 gr. Bullets - 110 grain Hydra Shok jacketed hollow point (JHP) Casings - Boxer-primed nickel-plated brass. 30 caliber bullet and the 150 grain. NorthernMichigan and iowafarmboy like this. Deer at moderate range. Manageable recoil without a significant reduction in performance is the top selling point for these cartridges. I usually shoot 115 grain ammo at the range, but lately I found some 124 grain at W/M that was cheaper. 0 grains of WW296 (1394 fps). 's of 2400 and a standard primer for both bullets for 1,300 fps with the 155 and 1,425 with the 140. A carbine of the same weight, firing a 115-grain, 9 mm load produces less than half that recoil, while one in. round at the same velocity as a 230 gr. 300 bullet in a non-magnum case. Shok federal premium 243 WIN 55 Grain - So urce. When I shoot. 38 ft lbs of recoil force, the 147 grain bullet produces 3. 380 Caliber) 95 gr. 5mm bullet diameter and compatible with. 5mm Bullets. Their new round filled the bill pretty well in 1921, but as new powder and bullets came along, the larger case capacity of the ’06 put the Savage in the shade. To get the “silent but deadly” effect that. Gun Tests Grade: A. I think is more about the power charge than the bullet weight. 338 Federal's 200-grain TBT drops 9. You will notice the difference. 2300 fps with a 300 grain saboted bullet is all the recoil I care to enjoy at the bench. The longer bullet will take up more case and raise the chamber pressure. my perceived recoil has been greater with the 30-06 than the 7mm mag in similar grain bullets. Re: Bullet weight vs. For example, I cast 155 gr. 308 with the same bullet and rifle. 38 has the edge. 38 Special Information:. The powder charge produces a fixed about of energy. Recoil is a function of action/reaction. The grain gives us information of the projectile’s weight, or we can say it measures the mass of the actual bullet flies in the unit of “gr. 223 bullet and the heavier. This bullet has a worse BC (0. 5 inches while exhibiting slightly less than average expansion. 375 caliber as. Weight: The 308 is in a short action AND it works fine with a shorter barrel. Let us also clarify that we are discussing the merits of heavier or lighter grain weights for the same caliber, such as 115 gr vs 147 gr 9mm. +P (plus pressure) is loaded to higher pressure than standard ammo. 38 Special Pistol and Handgun Ammo" to the Heavy 158 grain plus P. The findings indicated the. When it comes to comparisons, the. Hornady ® Custom Lite ® ammunition provides reduced recoil and muzzle blast from the most popular calibers, and puts the fun back into shooting for kids, women, and every shooter looking to keep recoil to a minimum while still enjoying the use of their favorite rifle. INFO 023-L7M081 7-08 Rem 140 gr. Cor-Bon 165-Grain PowRBall +P, $26. Here's how the 6BR stacks up vs. With deer effective bullets in the same weight rifle would the recoil be significantly different between the two? She does not care much for recoil but shoots a. According to Winchester, the 350 Legend has more energy than many popular rifle cartridges, including the. Sellier & Bellot. Switching to heavier bullets in the LBT lineup, a "moderate" load for the 395 grain bullet is 18. 62mm NATO M80 ball ammo. From 25 caliber, to. I reasoned that a light weight bullet might give me less recoil than shoving a heavy bullet down the barrel. The 8mm Rem Mag was derived from the full-length (2. 010" off the lands. 5 grains of Bullseye and another round with a 147 9mm bullet, same powder and charge, you will have a lower Recoil Impulse from the 95 grain bullet and a larger Recoil Impulse. If the bullet and the gun were of the same weight, the gun would recoil (freely) with the same velocity as the bullet. Cartridge: Bullet: Free Recoil Energy: Rifle Recoil Velocity: 458 Win. With factory loads (300 grain bullet at 1880 fps) the 45-70 is very mild in the recoil dept. The 308 Win is a. Wins For the 308. The case is an original design with a rimless, bottleneck type case that fits a. So one has a hunting. The XTP Is Specifically Designed To Expand Reliably at a Wide Range Of Handgun velocities And Deliver a Deep And Terminal Penetration With Every Shot. For my 155 grain lead bullet that was 18. 6mm Ar Vs 224 Valkyrie. The 243 is alright but it alot funnier to watch groundhogs blow up rather than just die Fixdeluxe1 Addition: The 25. Remington Core-Lokt is ideal for the hunters with a desire for filling their deer tags. Hornady developed a 220 grain bullet especially for the. Keep in mind this is a hunting bullet. 308 better than the. 0 grains with a 155 grain lead bullet. For instance, the. 309 rifle bullet which I use in Krags and Springfields, and some. a 5/8 oz slug has less recoil than a 7/8 oz slug fired from my 20 ga shotgun. The kick was laughable and almost nonexistent. Again, I think heavy bullets of at least 180 grains are best. Savage wanted a cartridge that would scoot a 150-grain bullet at about the same speed as the. Remington's Managed Recoil. 30 caliber, bullet matching the on-game performance of a middle weight lead projectile is undoubtedly an appealing concept for the recoil sensitive hunter. On the other hand,. So a higher grain can be louder, and also have more recoil/kick than a lower grain. I'd swear there was less recoil with the 165 grain Winchester. 45 ACP BULLETS IN A. Felt Recoil to the shooter: 308, 7. Remington factory ammo previously offered 185- and 220-grain PSP Core-Lokt bullets. The end result is a high-performance bullet optimized to provide the on-game results you've come to expect from Remington Ammunition with just half the felt recoil. Regardless which cartridge/caliber you shoot, stepping down in bullet weight will reduce recoil. 357 Mag 158 Grain FMJ. Michael, I use the 130 gr. 280 Ackley Improved is, to me, about as close to a perfect all-around North American cartridge as it gets. The other very fine bullet and my second choice is the Hornady soft nose 265 grainer. For those who want to use 250 grain or greater bullets and push them hard, consider a good recoil absorbing stock, heavier rifle, or even a muzzle brake. 's of 2400 and a standard primer for both bullets for 1,300 fps with the 155 and 1,425 with the 140. There are also some non +P 110 grain rounds, and some with pink on the box that are lower recoil, IIRC. 38 bullet now. 270 with less felt recoil. Action=reaction. 90 grain 9mm. But still, that 300 Blackout bullet is traveling 1,596 fps at 300 yards. I even passed up a Browning re-issue 86 to buy this one. , you'd have to shoot Hornady's 200-gr. In similar weight bullets, the 30-30 tends to outperform the little Russian cartridge. 45 caliber with the 230 grain bullet many years ago. The kinetic energy of the bullet is the energy that is transferred to the target when hit. 44 Magnum in the Marlin 1894 is a somewhat more limited gun than is the. 45 jhp destroys about 1. That extra bullet weight greatly increases recoil from the low range to the mid-range, reduces speeds, and greatly increases maximum ranges game can be taken at. On the other hand, the lighter grain weights typical of the. They both have some snap but nothing that isn’t manageable. Weight: The 308 is in a short action AND it works fine with a shorter barrel. If you favor a heavy bullet and deep penetration, even the 3-inch-barrel 357 Magnum will best a 147-grain 9mm (tested previously) by some 150 fps, as the Winchester Silvertip demonstrates. Most of the domestically manufactured commercial ammo in this guide use brass cases and Boxer primers, while the former Eastern Bloc churns out pallet. Learn the key performance and design differences that set HST, Hydra-Shok Deep and Punch apart from one another to choose the one that fits you best. 270 wsm with 117 and 140 gr bullets. The recoil difference between factory loaded 115 grain and 147 grain is less in the 115 grain. Re: Bullet weight vs. This is not to say that a 158 grain. round with the same springs in the gun, there will be about a 13 percent ((1-200/230) x 100) reduction in the recoil of the 230 gr. As stated, the recoil is roughly similar to the. The Hensley and Gibbs #68 style 200 grain Semi-Wadcutter seems to be the most popular. A carbine of the same weight, firing a 115-grain, 9 mm load produces less than half that recoil, while one in. 308 and 6BR chamberings offer good barrel life, but the 6BR uses 15-18 grains less powder, saving you money. Which is which? Thanks, Robb M. 458 Socom - Comprehensive Comparison When it comes to "knocking down" larger targets like wild boars, we need stronger and more powerful bullets. so I would conclude that a heavier bullet produces more recoil. Last edited by melsauto; 12-10-2014 at 10:09 PM. Muzzle recoil from a pistol is a relative thing. There's somewhat more to it than that, but 'roughly' if you're considering more or less 'the same' rifle firing a 100 grain bullet vs. Just giving my take on the idea of using heavy vs. 1,011 fps MAX AA. A better comparison is to the 300 BLK loaded with a comparable 125 gr. ammo of modest pressure, pushing a 400-grain bullet at around 2,250 fps. Logged Rojo27. Expand'g FMJ: Federal 124 gr. Subject: Re: 130 grain or 150 grain. 45 vs 200 grain 10mm penetration and for bears/ hogs - page 1 - 10mm Hunting - 10mm-firearms. The 45 Special brass is more expensive than the 45 Colt brass. 22LR with a 40-grain bullet at 1,000 fps posts a PF of 40. INFO 023-L30062 30-06 125 gr. I know of some people that are calling the 6. 257 Weatherby at 3500 fps, one’s shoulder is caressed with 13. Last, but not least, the 250 gr. I found the best groups to be with a COAL of 2. This isn't the weight of the entire round of ammunition, but just the projectile that leaves the barrel. a 122 grain has less recoil than a 154 grain while fired from my SKS rifle. TrailBoss 6. Reference video: https://www. 45 jhp destroys about 1. For instance, the. I have tried lighter and heavier bullets but the 124 has tighter groups. 520 BC outshines the 140-grain. Notice that the 9mm bullets weigh more than the ones used for. 284) bullets with a small increase in case length. They both have some snap but nothing that isn’t manageable. You shouldn't experience leading if the bullets are a good fit in your bore. This is a discussion on Help me understand bullet weights vs recoil within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I am trying to understand some things. 40 S&W casing looks identical to the 10mm (except for length). 1,309 fps MAX True Blue 19. From 25 caliber, to. Still, since the. Firearm is a G22 : Smith & Wesson Forum > Ammunition-Gunsmithing > Can someone provide some feedback on felt recoil of the 165 grain vs the 180 grain bullet. 1,662 MAX (for Sierra bullet) Enforcer 28. To reduce the recoil, you must reduce projectile weight, or powder charge, or both. 1,214 fps Start Titegroup 11. 38 special ammo is about gone too! Need some for my wife and we have been shooting 125 grain. Plenty of ink. These are: Use a lighter bullet, traveling at a higher speed - A lighter-than-normal weight bullet traveling at higher-than-normal speeds can carry the same amount of kinetic energy as a "normal" bullet, but will have less recoil. For instance, the compiled load data in the Lee manual lists ten 200 grain bullet loads with MVs between 2550 and 2607 f. Less Recoil. 7) and that is your starting load. 338 Win Mag shooting 250 grain bullets. My G19 & G26 perform better with 124 grain. light weight revolver 125 vs 158 recoil, rem. 0 grains of IMR4198 , with a 125 grain nosler balistic tip bullet. The other very fine bullet and my second choice is the Hornady soft nose 265 grainer. a number of popular calibers: Similar Posts: Recoil Comparison. To learn more. 180 both moving at the same velocity, same exact conditions a 180 will penetrate. 45 ACP has more felt recoil, largely because the bullet at 230 grains is as much as twice as heavy as the average 115–124 grain 9mm. Bullets - 110 grain Hydra Shok jacketed hollow point (JHP) Casings - Boxer-primed nickel-plated brass. The other 9mm Syntech ammo launches a 115-grain bullet at 1174 fps from my Glock, and the Action Pistol's 150-grain bullet had much less recoil. The Sellier & Bellot 158 Grain FMJ is an excellent round. 38 bullet now. Savage wanted a cartridge that would scoot a 150-grain bullet at about the same speed as the. Vihtavuori N120. Don't rule out the 148 grain wadcutters. Go with the 147gr and you will be happy with the results. so I would conclude that a heavier bullet produces more recoil. However, it has less recoil than the. 38 Special Pistol and Handgun Ammo" to the Heavy 158 grain plus P. It is excellent for target or as a training bullet. RN 1000rds Reman, PRICE $201. , recoil can be reduced somewhat by switching from a maximum load of 80. Bullets and recoil Reloading Bench. light for caliber bullets. One of the softest recoiling rifles I've shot was a 6. Cor-Bon 165-Grain PowRBall +P, $26. , 257 Allen Magnum, 338 RUM (Parent case for 257 A. The pistol was virtually recoiling too much and hurting my hand. Since the gun has so much more mass than the bullet, its recoil speed is much much less than bullet. The force of that bullet sailing down the lands and grooves in the barrel, then exiting, produces a recoil reaction in reverse that shooters term "felt recoil. 300 BLK is known for, it must be fired with the heavier 220 grain bullets which travel at slower subsonic velocities. 454 Casull, the. at Lucky Gunner. Muzzle loader is slow recoil. , 30-06 or 300 Win. bullets will penetrate like the proverbial runaway freight train. J&K Bullet Casters said: ↑. The ideal low recoil, range, fun shooting ammo for the 45-70 is the cast bullet stuff loaded down to about 1100-1200 fps with the 350-400 gr cast bullets, but that is a reloading proposition. of energy, the 30 Nosler outperforms such touted rounds as the 300 Weatherby and the 300 Win Mag. It is more of a push than a jarring feeling. The amount of recoil felt by the human body is determined by velocity of the bullet, weight of the bullet , and weight of your gun. I had just fired a 458 Winchester 500-gr roundnose solid bullet into the same media. However, for a +P 200g bullet the muzzle velocity is 1055 ft/s. Using heavier bullets solves the problem, but I have also found that there is a limit to the advantage of a heavier bullet. From 100 grain bullets, to 130 grains. 2-percent less recoil, and the 230-grain bullet had 5. Less recoil than many of the other favored competition cartridgesis another notable benefit to the 224 Valkyrie. I know of some people that are calling the 6. This is only of concern for self-defense ammo, as different-weight bullets perform differently. Use with MMP HPH-12 sabot for best results. 223 would recoil more. "My bullet box is a wooden affair with compartments: a half inch plywood entry panel followed by a water-filled balloon, then clay, ending with phone books or wet newspaper. A 255 gr bullet at 1025+ fps is nothing to sneeze at. It is a good balance of power vs. Used them up and recently bought a box of Winchester 40 165 grain FMJ. and a 270 Weatherby Magnum both with 24" barrels? I've been thinking of getting a 270 Weatherby for all-around hunting in North America and maybe Plains Game in Africa. Always begin with starting. Magnum trajectory. A 115-grain, 9mm bullet weighs. Four hundred grain bullets at 1400 feet per second give all the recoil anyone could want, believe me!. Both acceleration of the bullet and recoil must be very close to equal, according to physics. ) has greater range, with a MPBR and EKR of 260 yards. PRESS RELEASE FOR BUFFALO BORE 45-70 MAGNUM-LEVER GUN (ITEMS 8A, 8B, 8C, 8D, and 8E). Now, whether or not you could actually tell the difference is another matter. 62mm NATO M80 ball ammo. From 100 grain bullets, to 130 grains. 5 mm bullets will increase safety, aid reliability, and provide long brass life. What I'm saying is that if you loaded a: 95 grain 9mm bullet with. +P (plus pressure) is loaded to higher pressure than standard ammo. 1,011 fps MAX AA. The kinetic energy of the bullet is the energy that is transferred to the target when hit. 38 special ammo is about gone too! Need some for my wife and we have been shooting 125 grain. she has a savage axis 308. Warning for California Residents. 30-06 since. Takes more force to move heavy stuff than light stuff. 40 cal is very snappy and you have it in a compact to boot. 18 ft lbs of recoil force. 3,537 ft lbs 20 Round Box. The energy that drives the bullet is the same that drives the gun. However, it also has less recoil than many of the high-powered. 2 f/s 2 *7000 gr/lb) = 0. But the more I use them, the better I like 200-grain bullets, particularly in the. 45 jhp destroys about 1. hollow point (filled with polycarbonate) boat tail bullet with a 0. With factory loads (300 grain bullet at 1880 fps) the 45-70 is very mild in the recoil dept. felt recoil. 48 foot pounds of recoil in a two-pound gun. Action=reaction. Prices accurate at time of writing. On the other hand,. 284 bullet diameter that is usually 150-175 gr. A 70 grain change in a 230-grain bullet isn't that bad, but it's still a 30% weight loss. 5 grains equals one ounce. 5 Creedmoor vs 308 Recoil. Firstly, the measurement of the gun recoil energy is in ft-lbs with the rifle’s weight. Aside from that, combined with the significantly lower recoil (think 30-06 vs 308) and faster lock time, 7mm-08 will be a far easier calibre to be precise with let alone easier to carry around. 90 Grain 9mm Bullets. There is a 6% difference in recoil force. +P (plus pressure) is loaded to higher pressure than standard ammo. 280 Ackley Improved is, to me, about as close to a perfect all-around North American cartridge as it gets. We have decided to use the 147gr vs 124gr because the reduced recoil from the heavier projectile greatly improves the shooters confidence. Using heavier bullets solves the problem, but I have also found that there is a limit to the advantage of a heavier bullet. The other 25 caliber is the antique 257 Roberts. 5 mm bullets will increase safety, aid reliability, and provide long brass life. My main question is recoil in relation to power factor/bullet weight. Something to consider about bullet weights for defense: a heavier bullet tends to penetrate deeper (there's a lot of variables I. That power comes at the expense of lots of recoil though. All of this means that 300 Blackout has a lower practical range than the. Other factors that can alter perceived recoil include barrel length, gun weight and design, and the shooter’s grip and stance. Explanation of terms. I've bought 3500 or 4000 coated Steel Valley bullets since trying the 240 gr 44s. 99 This is a +P load, but with the 165-grain bullet, we thought recoil might be light. 30-06, but it had to be much shorter than the. ) generates a MPBR of 255 yards, but the light bullet sheds energy downrange, so the EKR is 200 yards. 338 RCM drops just 6. The Sellier & Bellot 158 Grain FMJ is an excellent round. 18 ft lbs of recoil force. That same 115-grain, 9mm bullet weight would be listed as 7. I have been told there are some advantages to the recoil of the lighter bullet. In one demonstration, a 540-gr Garrett Hammerhead drove through 56-inches of wet newspaper. 458 Lott factory loads shoot either 500 grain or 550 grain bullets. The other 25 caliber is the antique 257 Roberts. A 255 gr bullet at 1025+ fps is nothing to sneeze at. A grain is a unit of measurement of mass. 500 should be manageable with practice and working up to the top loads. 5 Creedmor or. 1,840 max (Sierra bullet) ----- 250-255 Grain Lead SWC. 243 ammunition is available with bullet weights ranging from 55 grains (3. 6-percent less recoil force compared to the 185-grain bullet (Figure 4). a 122 grain has less recoil than a 154 grain while fired from my SKS rifle. Let us also clarify that we are discussing the merits of heavier or lighter grain weights for the same caliber, such as 115 gr vs 147 gr 9mm. 5 Creedmoor's 143-grain ELD-X in a 308 Win. With a 100 or 115 grain bullet flying along a string tight trajectory, it produces deadly results out to long ranges, but has very mild recoil when compared to larger calibers. If you use a heavier bullet AT THE SAME POWER FACTOR (momentum) as a lighter bullet, the heavier bullet will travel slower, and the recoil impulse will be less. More powder is necessary when the bullet is heavier due to the larger mass needing to be moved. The kick was laughable and almost nonexistent. ? within the Handguns forums, part of the Gun Forum category; I usually shoot 230 FMJ, and was wondering if I would notice a difference with the 185's? Can't be much. Cast bullets build pressure differently than jacketed bullets, so you should be well withing safe working pressures even with the heavier bullet. Bullet Weight vs. 0628 The 115 grain bullet produces 6. 850 inch) belted magnum case, with minimal body taper and a sharp, 25-degree shoulder. 9 pounds, while a 400 grain bullet at 1,330 feet per second is only 18. 338 Federal's 200-grain TBT drops 9. 2 lb felt recoil. My only experience is when I went from 115 gr bullets at PF 130 to. Remington's Managed Recoil. Ballistics Gel Tested. 308 is very close to the. When talking about bullet kinetic energy, the word muzzle energy is often brought up. JHP +P: Cor Bon 115 gr. You must also consider a bullet's ballistic coefficient, and the 6. I carry 230 grain loads in my. 180 both moving at the same velocity, same exact conditions a 180 will penetrate. 266, and is designed for more controlled expasion after impact. 90 grain 9mm. No scientific answer here just impressions. The whole point of. The powder charge produces a fixed about of energy. A 7-08 using a 120-grain bullet out of the same weight gun produces just over 12 pounds of recoil. 06 is the most amazing varmint hunting cartridge known to man hands down. 5MM 129 Grain Interlock and InterBond Bullet, that might reduce the recoil if, loaded down about 3-4 grains of Powder, less than the maximum charge. +P (plus pressure) is loaded to higher pressure than standard ammo. 308-caliber shooters. same bullets must be single-fed. 206oz) and travels at 928fps, so it would have a recoil velocity of 12. 45 caliber with the 230 grain bullet many years ago. Their new round filled the bill pretty well in 1921, but as new powder and bullets came along, the larger case capacity of the ’06 put the Savage in the shade. A bullet that is 125gr and leaves a 3 inch barrel at 800fps would have a sharper perceived recoil than the same bullet at the same speed leaving an 8 inch barrel. 50 caliber 250 grain MZ bullet has an advantage during low-velocity expansion. e you hit bone, velocity, etc) but for this arguments sake say a 165 Vs. TrailBoss 6. Given identical rifles, the. round with the same springs in the gun, there will be about a 13 percent ((1-200/230) x 100) reduction in the recoil of the 230 gr. Newton got it right, and the calculation is pretty straightforward. When shot from an all-steel 1911, the 155-grain. Part # PD380HS1 H. Both are 6. Being 67 n disabled i am looking for 100 yds n under, most likely under a 75 yds in my woods. Install a softer recoil spring. This is more than ten times the average recoil from a. Using heavier bullets solves the problem, but I have also found that there is a limit to the advantage of a heavier bullet. J&K Bullet Casters said: ↑. 260 Remington and 6. JHP +P: Cor Bon 115 gr. Hydra-Shok JHP: Federal 147 gr. They are shooting lead in the 145 grain range. The case is an original design with a rimless, bottleneck type case that fits a. Any excess gas that exits out the front will produce recoil. same bullets must be single-fed. 5 Creedmoor was flatter shooting, though, compared to the slower 7x57 heavy-bullet loads. Remington Core-Lokt is ideal for the hunters with a desire for filling their deer tags. If you favor a heavy bullet and deep penetration, even the 3-inch-barrel 357 Magnum will best a 147-grain 9mm (tested previously) by some 150 fps, as the Winchester Silvertip demonstrates. 30-06 cartridge loaded with a 180 grain bullet is going to be more effective against a big moose than a. With its mild recoil and longer range capabilities, the 7mm-08 is a very useful calibre for Australian hunting activities. Here is an excellent article. I have to convert everything to metric just because I'm used to it. The ballistic performance for the 7. light for caliber bullets. The other very fine bullet and my second choice is the Hornady soft nose 265 grainer. DPX: Federal 115 gr. We have decided to use the 147gr vs 124gr because the reduced recoil from the heavier projectile greatly improves the shooters confidence. 38 specials and 125 gr. Again, I think heavy bullets of at least 180 grains are best. Bullet Weight vs. Penetration can be expected to range from 10 to 14 inches. Selection of a specific caliber for self defense is a function of a variety of factors, including size and weight of the associated gun, recoil tolerance of the shooter and bullet performance. 308 vs the. The three to four grain load also makes a good "basement" load for a contender, basically duplicating a. 608slug-ft/sec we would have a 147gr bullet going about 930fps. com If recoil is a problem, you could add some weight to your Glock 20. Recoil was mild, unlike the 195-grain Berger. 45 ACP and find that it shoots “softer” than my 1911. The case is an original design with a rimless, bottleneck type case that fits a. 45 has a Substantial but relatively gentle "push". Deer at moderate range. If you favor a heavy bullet and deep penetration, even the 3-inch-barrel 357 Magnum will best a 147-grain 9mm (tested previously) by some 150 fps, as the Winchester Silvertip demonstrates. This 25-yard target was fired with the S&W Mountain Gun using handloads with 255-gr. If you order in the next h m and we don't ship today we will pay you $100 i. 380 Caliber) 95 gr. a number of popular calibers: Similar Posts: Recoil Comparison. in fairness, the -06's were all rem 700 rifles and 7mm a T3. 45-70 Magnum - Lever Gun Ammo 430 gr. Hodgdon has three separate tabs under the DATA menu of the website’s main page to help in low recoil loading. My favorite light load is the Federal Nyclad: a standard pressure, 110 grain soft lead bullet that is "jacketed" in polymer. Bullets - 110 grain Hydra Shok jacketed hollow point (JHP) Casings - Boxer-primed nickel-plated brass. We can switch it up with different bullet mass as well.
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